Ok fight fans, I will be the first to admit that it was a great knockout Fedor put on Rogers.
The first round started with Rogers landing a nice straight jab that opened a cut on the bridge of Fedor’s nose. Rogers remained patient and worked his game. Fedor landed a nice punch and knocked Rogers back and then took him down. Rogers worked his way on top of Fedor and dropped some huge punches and I though the fight was going to be over, but I was denied.
In the second round, Fedor let his hands go a little more and Rogers seemed to relax just a little to much. Just a minute or so into the second round, Fedor threw a huge over hand right with his entire body behind it and landed right on Rogers jaw and dropped him. Fedor followed Rogers to the ground and dropped a few bombs then Big John stopped the fight.
Fedor wins, but at 6 to1 odds wasn’t he supposed too? I have said this before and I will say it a gain, this is what M-1 and Fedor wanted by signing with Strikeforce. Keeping Fedor as the big fish in a small pond so he can keep his record and his #1 ranking. Why join the UFC and take a risk getting beat and losing his #1 ranking means less money for Fedor and M-1. M-1 doesn’t care about the fans, they care about money and how much they can make on their bottom line.
This is Fedor’s first fight in Strikeforce and the first person he gets to fight was ranked #10. One year ago Brett Rogers was tire changer at Sam’s Club and now he is in the ring with the #1 ranked fighter in the world. Are you serious that’s the best competition they can get for the # 1 fighter in the world? Don’t get it twisted Rogers is a good fighter, but while Rogers was working his life away at Sam’s Club, Fedor had already been training for years. So before you start talking about how bad Fedor is look through the cloud that M-1, Fedor and Strikeforce are trying to pull over your eyes.
Fedor is a great fighter but my point is, he should be fight better opponents then tire changers at Sam’s Club. M-1 wants Fedor to have the advantage going into any fight. Everyone cheers Fedor and goes on about how good he is, but wait he is supposed to win that’s exactly how they wanted it.
Who’s are they going to put in the ring with Fedor next? The water boy? The heavy weight champion in Strikeforce is Alistair Overreem and Fedor’s next opponent. I will say this right now Fedor should have no problem beating Overeen and again that’s what they want. Who’ s after Overeem? More fighters that were kicked out of the UFC and on their far side of there MMA careers?
Why is Fedor in Strikeforce during the prime of his career and fighting less than worthy opponents. I know you will say that he will be in the UFC soon. You can write this down and remember I said it” Fedor will NEVER join the UFC because it’s not good for his career. He had his chance, but decided to sign with Strikeforce and had all the excuses. I kinda liked Fedor until that happened and now I see the true colors of Fedor and M-1. Fedor made it on my top 10 most hated MMA fighters.
I’m ready, bring on the comments and all the Fedor fluffers will tell me how great Fedor is, and how I don’t know what I’m talking about. Bottom line Fedor is set up to win and if he was in the UFC, he would already have a loss on his record. Say what you want, Fedor is fighting inferior fighters to keep his record and # 1 rank safe, exactly what M-1,Fedor and Strikeforce want. Just in case I haven’t got your attention you can always read Extreme John’s blog post about Fedor. He has a few choice words to say about the Fedor vs Rogers fight.
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Your whole argument is based on rankings and odds. Give me a break. I go by what I see in the ring and not by lists and odds. That was a great fight. Rogers is a great fighter and he would give your UFC HW’s a run for their money. Continue to love your Ultimate Fighters and hate on anyone outside the UFC. Do I want to see Fedor fight in the UFC? Absolutely. Am I gonna keep hating on the guy because he didn’t sign with the UFC? No. I’m gonna enjoy watching his fights. Just appreciate what this guy brings to the table. You might not see a guy like him come around again.
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Extreme John
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November 8th, 2009 at 11:33 am
not that I want to speak for James but I think a little bit of the animosity that you see towards Fedor is out of frustration that you constantly have to hear about the guy, yet he’s fighting guys that he is far more skilled than. And those guys are handing him a decent beating before he pulls the trigger on an excellent KO punch like last night.
I respect Fedor’s skills and what he brings to the table, I just personally feel that he doesn’t impress me, something that will stick in my mind as long as he is fighting guys that he really shouldn’t be fighting if he is really “that good”.
Extreme John´s last blog ..Rogers Owns Fedor Than Loses
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TheNotoriousJJ Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:41 am
If that is the case then I can understand a little better. I don’t understand the animosity towards Fedor himself, he is such a humble guy. I don’t see much of anything that a person could dislike about the guy.
Rogers did do some damage, or so it appeared. How much that nose really bothered Fedor we will never know. I know what you mean about pulling the trigger, but isn’t that what every fighter does when they go for a submission or throw a big KO punch?
Fedor has skills that are unmatched in MMA in my opinion. He’s something special and we all need to appreciate what we have seen during his time in the sport. He will forever be remembered as one of the best, there is no doubt about that.
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Extreme John
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November 8th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
you have to keep in mind that when it comes to fans feeling like Fedor is trying to protect his record the only person they are going to generate that hatred towards is Fedor. He’s the one who fights and ultimately he is the one who decides on his own business affairs, he doesn’t want to fight the best.
Extreme John´s last blog ..Rogers Owns Fedor Than Loses
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Geoff "loco"motive Byers Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
what a guy that fights bums.Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whatever bud. you are so wrong and didn’t even make a good debate!
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“Why join the UFC and take a risk getting beat and losing his #1 ranking means less money for Fedor and M-1. M-1 doesn’t care about the fans, they care about money and how much they can make on their bottom line.”
Okay, but that’s not difficult for me to turn that around and say the UFC (which you seem to be in love with) doesn’t care about the fighters, they care about how much money they can make themselves as an organization and their bottom line. Have you seem the pay disparity that still occurs in the UFC? Then what’s more important, caring about the fans or caring about the athletes that compete to entertain these fans.
So Fedor stays in an organization & puts himself in a position where he can make the most money, for himself and M-1. You need to remember that Professional MMA is a business and making money is what keeps the wheels turning. I don’t think every fighter is as concerned with their ranking as you think they are.
And just who do you think would put that L on Fedor’s record in the UFC? Coker said at the press conference last night we can expect a heavyweight signing or two in the next 7-10 days. Let’s see what Strikeforce plans to do next to strengthen up the division.
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Extreme John
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November 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
@TheNotoriousJJ I really can’t argue with you here, bottom line at the end of the day it’s a business. Business’s rarely have loyalty to anyone except for their bottom line, not a big deal since that’s part of what makes them a business.
On a side note and nothing that has anything to do with protecting records or fighters, the UFC has shown loyalty to SOME fighters over the years. Still rare, but at least they do it.
Extreme John´s last blog ..Rogers Owns Fedor Than Loses
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Twitter: extremejohn
November 8, 2009 at 11:42 am
People can bitch and complain and hate your opinion as much as they want, in my opinion your exactly right. Fedor will never be a UFC fighter, he wants nothing to do with it.
Even before there was a Strikeforce deal Randy Couture BEGGED that guy to fight, had Dana White willing to do anything to put that fight on and still managed to escape the fight. He did get plenty of “demonstrations” and Sambo matches in, but it would be much more exciting to see the guy have two fights a year and against some worthy opponents… IN RECENT TIMES, not talking about Fedor 5 years ago. I could give two shits about Fedor of 5 years or 10 years ago, let me see something current.
Extreme John´s last blog ..Rogers Owns Fedor Than Loses
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I understand what you are saying and I feel Fedor is a great fighter but can he aleast fight someone close to his skill level. I don’t hate everyone out side the UFC only Fedor, he knew where the real compitions was and chose to fight inferior opponents and as a fan that really pissed me off.
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November 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
“IN RECENT TIMES, not talking about Fedor 5 years ago. I could give two shits about Fedor of 5 years or 10 years ago, let me see something current.”
So tired of hearing this. He destroyed former UFC HW champion Tim Sylvia just 3 fights ago. Let me ask you this. Let’s say the Fedor vs. Sylvia fight took place in the UFC. Would you think of that win differently than you do now? How about the Arlovski fight? Yeah I know. Both those guys are castoffs from the UFC because they’re not up to the caliber of competition in the UFC. I got to give Zuffa credit. Brilliant marketing. They can always spin it in their favor. It’s a really good thing that the Couture fight never happened. No doubt in my mind that Fedor would’ve beaten him convincingly. I think the UFC would’ve had a harder time throwing Couture under the bus than they have with their other fighters.
“I don’t hate everyone out side the UFC only Fedor, he knew where the real compitions was and chose to fight inferior opponents and as a fan that really pissed me off.”
Rogers gave Fedor all that he can handle. Would you still call him an inferior opponent? Give the guy some credit. Here’s the flaw in your logic. You obviously think that Fedor is a great fighter and would love to see him fight in the UFC. He had trouble with both Arlovski and Rogers. If those guys are so inferior then why did Fedor have trouble with them? Because he’s not the same fighter from 5-10 years ago? Because he’s not as good as everyone is saying he is? If that’s the case then stop whining about how he’s not fighting in the UFC.
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Extreme John
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November 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
In regards to Sylvia and Arlovski you probably don’t want to know my opinion about either one of them. Arlovski is a butter chin and Sylvia, honestly I have never taken him serously. Not as a UFC champion and not as the guy getting KO’d by Ray Mercer.
In regards to your response to James, to touch on that if Rogers gave Fedor all that he could handle than let’s just imagine what would happen if Fedor faced someone ranked higher than Rogers or perhaps someone with more experience.
Chances are in the same fashion that you are sick of all the arguments for why Fedor is over rated it’s safe to say that people that think he is over rated are tired of hearing that Fedor beat Arlovski and Sylvia. Hardly enough to change my mind or impress me with Fedor and how highly so many mma fans regard him.
Extreme John´s last blog ..Rogers Owns Fedor Than Loses
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Let me guess, then: UFC Champs are the best, ex-UFC Champs are morons, is that it?
You know what, there is a whole universe outside UFC, pal. You should relax and enjoy.
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Rommel you have missed my point because your mad I’m not on the Fedor band wagon.Go back and re read my post again. Fedor beat a guy that has been a pro fighter for less than a year and you go gooo gooo gaaa gaaa over it. Are you serious? Thats the best competitons they can find? Open your eyes and take a look around at the BS they are feed you.
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“Fedor is a great fighter but my point is, he should be fight better opponents then tire changers at Sam’s Club.”
so ur point is … that people who fight professionally … cannot do anything else??? or one who changes tires cannot be a good fighter?? U r totally dissing a fighter here, utter shame on that.
And talking about money … ufcbios.com states this on randy couture’s bio : ” Randy recently stated plans of severing all ties with the UFC after learning that Chuck Liddell was being paid more than he was to fight.”. The natural himself was all about the money back then. I love djing but i work somewhere else because i get paid more. Everyone is a little selfish when the money is involved. So I would say, people log on these(MMA) websites to learn something about MMA, not to read some fighter bashing.
But great site otherwise.
- Shez.
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I do feel that most of you are being disrespectful to Rogers. How experienced was Broke Lesnar when he got the fight against Randy Couture? Had he not won that fight you could easily have argued that Couture was being given an easy match. Lesnar’s job before the UFC contract was being a clown!
I sincerely believe Fedor’s main focus when deciding against UFC was to remain in control or at least having a say in his own career. A few UFC fighters have come out recently complaining about not having much or no say in their own fight schedule, most recently Rampage.
I agree with Rommel, there is a whole world outside UFC. I love watching UFC but it’s not the only competion around worthy of our respect. I remember seeing Dana White visiting Pride and he was blown away by it all, all through the event you could see he was stunned by the experience. I, in general, believe competition between multiple organisations is good for all of us. Strikeforce signing a name like Fedor will give them ammunition for more interesting signings, hopefully some heavy challengers for Fedor.
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Shez my point is while Fedor has been training for years full time Rogers was working full time and taking care of his family . Then when he had time he would train So Thats a huge advantage over an opponent. Thank for thr comment.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh. The Fedor fans are a little burnt on this page. I dont think they realize that the best fighters are in the UFC. Lets say a an NFL team could play exclusively against teams in a lesser league maybe the AFL or CFL still make good money and keep a great record and still compete for the Super Bowl, Of course they would do it, but that wouldn’t make them better than the teams in the NFL playing an NFL schedule who didn’t make the Super Bowl.It would only prove they can beat shitty teams, not shitty compared to other CFL or AFL teams but to the elite NFL teams. Thats like getting a soccer team from the Uafa champions league to play an MLS team. Sure MLS players are “proffessionals” just not the elite. Understand TOKS1,Shez ,RS and nocsu dumbasses, hey you guys should get a job being dumbasses you sound like you’d be great. Every one knows that theres a “whole fight world out there” but theres only one Major league in every sport! Sorry to tell ya boys but the UFC is it in fighting. Stop crying and go suck an egg. If Fedor wants props from men that like fighting and not just hype he should get out of the farm leagues and join THE SHOW! -out-
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